th One craftsman, who has been using handsaws for Subscribe to Paul's YouTube to make sure you don't miss out on his latest videos! This is a deep-breasted older saw that has a nib. £8.40. (The early Disston saws were made by emigrants to the US from Sheffield – they just took their manufacturing habits and quirks with them.). Henry Disston himself said … Paul – that’s a very good example of making use of something you happen to have for a practical purpose. Early Disstons were stamped – not etched – etching of the plate started around 1865 or maybe later. You’ll see a high end Disston 12 that has a nib, but their highest end D-8s don’t. Carpenter Carl Bilderback showed me this trick. It’s not indicative of quality or age. The steel blade is 25 5/8 inches long and 5 inches tall, it has a total of 80 teeth which comes out just a touch over 3 teeth per inch. 7 rip saw on my desk has a much more robust nib 3 ½ inches from the toe, and a Keystone 107 from about the same era has an even larger nib just 3 ¼ inches back. HENRY DISSTON & SONS, NO. As Henry Disston himself said in the 1800’s it is a decorative way to end the top. Handles were made from applewood logs, which were first cut to the proper thickness and then aged in the open air for three years. Warranted Superior Hand Saw With Nib , 12 TPI , Sharpened and Ready To Use. Place the indent nib next to the pencil mark and place the pencil in the recess. Dozens of theories but no one knows that’s living. They call it a "God Complex" and some in today's Cancel Culture" would be more then willing to append it to you.…, Thank you for both your informative reply and addendum. Henry Disston D8 26" crosscut 8tpi Antique Keystone works hand saw. This was a Disston top-of-the-line saw. $64.99. John – I didn’t suggest that Disston himself was from Sheffield, but that some of his early workforce were. Disston made saws since the mid 1800’s, and for them to print this in 1912 , I would think that the nib generated a lot of conversation as to what it was for even in the early 1900’s. Prior to 1928, the blade had a small "nib" a few inches from the toe. This is most likely due to the overwhelming popularity of the D8 Rip Saw which featured a finger hole handle. Handle and medallion indacate it was made in the 1880's. At the height of production, this saw was available from 16-28" in a cross cut, and from 20-28" in a rip. 1926 Henry Disston Saw That Cuts Philadelphia PA Antique 1920s Tool Print Ad. 7 was available in even-numbered lengths from 14 inches to 36 inches. To see a pristine example of a circa 1895 #7, visit the museum. than any other feature on the saw. The Disston Saw Company insist that the Nib has no practical use whatsoever’, it merely serves to break the straight line of the blade and is an ornamentation only. Disston Hand Saws Price / Value Guide: Browse FREE Disston Hand Saws Price & Value Guide. Simple, effective and obvious. Cross cut saws were available with teeth from 5-11 points per inch, with 7, 8 and 9 ppi turning up most often. This website uses cookies to store information on your computer. All the saws from this point on would be produced with straight or skewed backs, but the "nib" was dropped forever from straight back saws. Straight and sharp. While there is much debate about the purpose of the "nib", Disston claimed that it was merely decorative. That tiny bump—called a “nib”—near the front of old handsaw blades has, for decades, been a source of contention among antique-tool collectors, Shawn. ... 1926 Henry Disston Saw Get It Done Philadelphia PA Antique 1920s Tool Print Ad. Henry Disston originally produced this saw in his shop in Center City Philadelphia in 1840. 14WJ - Jackson Back Saw, 16", 11pt, 3 5/8" depth, Perfect handle and nib. I just may give the recipe a try (consumed in limited, none too "Explosive" quantities, of course) to see what it tastes lik…, Lol. Place the saw’s nib against the nail or screw. Fine handle and nib. Just google “Disston Saw” and you’ll see it. While there is much debate about the purpose of the "nib", Disston claimed that it was merely decorative. This nib from a 1840's handsaw is different from those above and below it in that it is from a full-sized saw. These saws continued as part of the main Disston line until August 1, 1928. You can contact us here. BugBear All 3 have a nib on the spine. When Disston was the biggest saw maker in the world, they included the nib on only their more high priced saws. beech handle, four nuts (full size), three nuts (panel saw) 1840-1928 commonly found, the basic Disston model for decades No. With a rich history spanning over 175 years, Disston Tools is a global manufacturer of hole saws, bandsaw blades, jig saw blades, reciprocating saw blades, drill bits, and other hand and power tool related accessories for the DIY, contractor and industrial markets. It works for me, with pleasure and With the other hand push the nib against the nail. DISSTON Saw Set - 76022 $ 48.00 $ 55.00. 8: apple handle, four nuts (full size), three nuts (panel saw) ca. split nut handsaw with NIB. Must be several hundred guesses at the purpose of it. Blade clean and bright and with just a few spots of... 1940 era D7 6 point rip rates fine- overall. £7.56. Paul Sellers & Company Ltd is a company registered in England and Wales with the company number 10347569. But the saw’s teeth do this perfectly too, Sam, and so too the back of the saw. This saw handle also features a double nib in front of the top horn and two hound’s teeth in front of the bottom horn. Sign up to receive a weekly digest of posts from Paul's blog, "I was interviewed recently by a Times reporter who used me and my name to promote and give some kind of credit or approval to an upcoming show about woodworking. obviously, George, the double nibs allow you to draw parallel lines. with a sharp edge, it would make On sale. Many of the specialty saws were dropped. In the center of the blade I can barely see some lettering, not enough to make out anything ( that is the fourth picture ). Inventive but not really true. Place the indent nib next to the pencil mark and place the pencil in the recess. Personally, I find it is a useful aid to tell you when to stop pulling the saw back in the cut. The logo displays an eagle alongside the company name - Image: eBay Over the years the logo changed subtly, making dating the saw as simple as checking an online database – such as the one found at DisstonianInstitute.com. Todd the answer to your question is, Yes. Prior to 1928, the blade had a small "nib" a few inches from the toe. identifying and dating disston saws. The only mystery is the persistence of the myth that nobody knows what it’s for – which woodworkers keep repeating because it was written in a book 100 years ago by somebody who didn’t know what it was for! Yep it’s a tell-tale. The saws were the same as the Philadelphia models. That nib somebody mentioned is a constant source of debate. The D8 saw was made in many different lengths and various teeth per inch (tpi). DIY And Crafts. It was sharpened by Ron Herman Dec. 2020. PHILADA medallion is from after 1896. Handle nice with minor scuffs. Disston Saw Works of Philadelphia was one of the better known and highly regarded manufacturers of handsaws in the United States.During the mid-19th to early 20th century, as Henry Disston & Sons, Inc., it was a supplier of industrial saw blades.A successor corporation, still active in Philadelphia, is called Disston Precision The only tool let go to rust was a tenon saw. http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/faq.html. P&P: + £4.01 P&P . The owner told me her "good for nothing" son took it out a few years earlier and left it out in the weather. Traits common to all #7s, and the later D7, were a straight backed blade and a beech handle. About once a month or so I am asked this question and I always say that there are some good enough theories but most make no real practical sense for the simple reason that something more practical was around or the suggested use would not be something practiced enough for makers to build the feature into every saw for the few decades they were made. The company’s registered address is Accsol House High Street, Johnstown, Wrexham, LL14 2SH, United Kingdom. Can’t think of a practical use for a pair! By comparison an 1885 Disston No. I have used a saw with a nib for this purpose and it works great. {price =SOLD plus shipping} z Pic Pic Pic Pic. Here’s a link to the FAQ page of the Disstonian Institute website, for those who’d like to persue the subject further – http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/faq.html. New to woodworking? As far as I’m aware, Disston was the first to make a skew back saw. Add to favorite sellers other items about page to view the showcase you need flash or higher Disston and Sons published an explanation in their Lumberman Handbook stating: The "Nib" near the end of a hand saw has no practical use whatever, it merely serves to break the straight line of the back of blade [sic] and is an ornamentation only. Pinch the distance on the saw between the thumb and forefinger of the less dominant hand. As soon as you see the nib, start pushing again. These pre-WWII models have excellent steel and nicely shaped handles. If you hold the saw at arm’s length, they become very difficult to make out. Remember that this was the pre-tape measure era but straight rods and rulers were the common way.When the distance is more then the length of a square blade you can mark the distance and use the nib on the saw to pull the line as can be seen. Explore. Wow! The song is very familiar to me. Changing only slightly from 1840 to the late 1920s when the entire Disston line changed, this saw has been a favorite for many years. There’s been a lot of debate over the years about what the nib was for on old saws, with several theories advanced. Handle is fitted with 3 brass buttons, medallion is marked ‘Disston USA’. Make as good an answer as any I have ever heard! View other vintage rip hand saws on eBay; View new panel saws at Woodcraft ratings) £39.00: £8.00: 29D 22Hrs 29Min 10Sec : Assorted Saws: cheads2823 (5 of 5 points 63 pos. Your IP Address is: 2604:4500:0:239:ec4:7aff:fe76:9738. TPI: 14 Blade length: 12” Condition: requires sharpen... Full Product Details Just saying. Ending Sunday at 6:32PM GMT 2d 13h. The Disston Saw Company insist that the Nib has no practical use whatsoever’, it merely serves to break the straight line of the blade and is an ornamentation only. The medallions on Disston saws give the most accurate indication of manufacturing dates for handsaws, panel saws, and backsaws. My own opinion is when ripping, you draw the saw back to the nib(approximately) to keep from pulling back, and possibly bind or kink saw! Helps with boards when the end of the saw will be out of sight. Brass back tenon saw with beech handle made by Henry Disston & Sons, Philadelphia, USA. With one hand push the pencil around. This allowed Disston to sell in the British Commonwealth without paying tariffs. Want to stay up to date with Paul's blog? Henry Disston was from Tewksbury Suffolk not Sheffield. The nib makes an excellent scraper to clean the splinters of the wood at bottom of a cut. 1880 era No 7 5 point rip saw rates fine overall. It matches the very decorative designs of the early saw handles, beautifully sculptured. The saw, is straight and sharp and the original "nib" is present. FIND 1000's of Antiques, Art, Vintage & RARE Collectables - each item pictured, described and with it's price guide. No other saw came in as wide a selection of blade lengths and pitches than the #7. i was told to day by my 80 year old dad he said his granddad said it was used in a jig to to set the teeth when it was made and they thought it would be useful to sharping it in a hand jig it would move the saw to the next tooth now is this true will he told me a lot of story’s over the years. Jun 5, 2019 - The History of The Disston Saw Company as told by Henry Disston Jr. Jun 5, 2019 - The History of The Disston Saw Company as told by Henry Disston Jr. Jun 5, 2019 - The History of The Disston Saw Company as told by Henry Disston Jr. Pull the saw and pencil along the panel for a parallel line to saw to. The last saws with nibs were made up to World War 2 in Sheffield, when the feature was dropped altogether until revived recently by some of the bespoke US sawmakers. One of the saws, a 3 1/2 point D8 Rip has the same medallion as yours, but also has an etch next to the Disston etch 'Sold By, Anthony Hordern & Sons, Sydney NSW". £40.00. This provision for small donations has been created due to popular demand from wonderful people that expressed their desire to support Paul’s work, you can donate here. $149.00 See more ideas about saws, hand saws, antique tools. Nov 18, 2020 - Explore David Ivy's board "Disston Saws" on Pinterest. Good lot in … At MacDonald’s Old Farm. Measuring in the exact distance you want from the edge of a board or panel places the mark where you want it but the tape may not be rigid enough to hold a pencil against and pull the line like you would with say a square. Mark the distance you need from the tape. Follow Paul's technique and project videos over at Woodworking Masterclasses, our dedicated site for honing your skills. Some of the more amusing suggest that the nib was used as a gauge … despatch times are 1-4 days and delivery will take 3-5 days. $45.99 + shipping . Place the indent adjacent to the nib against the pencil. By using our website you accept the terms of our Privacy Policy. That said, there is no reason for not using what exists for a non intended use of it works well and here is a practical use I find works fine for me. Not many rip versions of this saw surface, although they do turn up. 140 p., illus, 15.8 cm, trade catalog. Place the indent adjacent to the nib against the pencil. It has just under 5 tpi, the blade is 28" long, the etching is in good shape, with some pitting on the blade but none near the teeth. Today good examples of the #7 are in extremely high demand. To see a pristine example of a circa 1895 #7, visit the museum. 16 1/2 x 21 inch Patented FOSS Saw Filing Vise - 85452 $ 145.00. I saw a picture of one that looked like a set of pit-saw teeth. The first complete timeline of Disston handsaws was written by Pete Taran and published in the Winter 2001 issue of the Fine Tool Journal.His article assigned manufacturing dates to Disston saws, based on the medallions, creating what is … Disston produced wooden saw handles and the brass screws with which they were attached to the blades. $149.05 + shipping . Disston Saws at shop. 12 RIP SAW. You can also verify age by the handle and by the etching (or lack thereof). Exceptions to this would be a Disston lightweight or a true ship point that had a narrow blade to begin with. All 3 have a gentle curve, but are good users will cut well. Nothing appeals to tool collectors and wood workers alike as the very ornate and graphic #7 handle and straight blade with nib. Blade measures 28" by 7 3/4" high at heel. The later D7s while not as visually appealing as their older counterpart, make a great saw to use in the shop. Careful, Stephen, there's a name for that manner of speaking. Rip Saws came with teeth from 4-7 points per inch, including most half sizes in between. Other saw makers though, included a nib in order to compete with Disston. I have no doubt that this was the purpose of the nib. Lovely 7 1/2 inch Surgical Saw = 85955 $ 69.00. Handles on the early #7 were very graceful and fully carved of American Beech. I mean, I can’t speak for the rest of you but for me…. Lot Vintage Disston hand saws 24", 21”, 20” long With NIB. A. Disston had a factory in Toronto from 1910 until at least the 1950's. Later D7 models had a completely straight blade, losing the "nib". Cleaning the splinters from a resultant saw cut, with the saw teeth, is not practical because of varied teeth sizes. Some of the most desirable models of Disston saws are the Disston #16 hand saw, Disston #D-8 hand saw (with thumb holes is popular and useful), Disston #12 hand saw, among others. Existem algumas absolutamente aceitaveis, que fazem tranquilamente o serv…. The wheat-carved apple handle has a small chip on the side of the horn and some tool-box dings. Disston was making saws with nibs up until the 1920s or so. Useful with unfamiliar saws or for beginners. Disston and Sons published an explanation in their Lumberman Handbook stating: The "Nib" near the end of a hand saw has no practical use whatever, it merely serves to break the straight line of the back of blade [sic] and is an ornamentation only. Pinch the distance on the saw between the thumb and forefinger of the less dominant hand. It’s a sort of visual balance at the toe of the saw to the decorative appearance of the nicely-shaped older handles with longer, slender horns and lamb’s tongue detail. Addeddate 2017-05-19 03:29:49 Coverleaf 0 Identifier Disston1918CatalogRevisedEdition I have a very old Robert Sorby saw with two nibs, so I also think it was mainly for decoration. May 4, 2020 - 8 point 26 inch rip. Conical nuts. According to the Henry Disston & Sons 1918 Catalogue, the No. This is a matter of personal preference and depends on what you are going to use the saw for and how heavy a saw you are comfortable with. Intended for exotic woods. Handle has been refinished and has a small bite out of the upper and lower horns, but has no cracks or repairs. ... Look at my post entitled A Vintage English Hand Saw and you will see a picture of a nib on a 19th century saw. This process involved eighteen steps. a smile. Vintage Henry Disston & Sons Hand Saw, #7 Blade has been cleaned of rust, paint splatter, pitch and corrosion (see picture), 26 1/2", w/nib. Pull the saw and pencil along the panel for a parallel line to saw to. Thomas Flinn Lynx 10" Tenon Saw, 15 TPI, Cross Cut, Stained Beech Handle. I was told by a senior woodworker that the “nib” when The porridge continues to thicken while cooling. Vintage saws Disston USA & Slack Sellars Gol . The top and bottom one are Disston, not clear who made the middle saw in the first photo. a score to start the saw cut. In this case the nib is located nearly 5 inches back from the toe of the saw. ... Disston D8 22" 11 Point Rip Cut Panel Saw Handsaw 1947-1953 Sharpened Set Lovely. Blade measures 26" by 7 1/4" high at heel. 19K-7 - Disston Panel Saw, 20", 9pt, marked American Boy, in Good condition Blade clean, noting some minor pitting at toe area of saw. “A Nib is a projection on the back of the handsaw close to the end. Whether you want a straight back with nib or a skew back is entirely up to the individual. About onc…, As placas chinesas podem ser melhores ou piores, a diferença no preco quase sempre condiz com a qualidade. Erik von Sneidern, historic handsaw aficionado and curator of disstonianinstitute.com, has heard every theory imaginable. As fine as it gets for a rip. Get his weekly digest delivered straight to your inbox. Lie-Nielsen’s panel saws still have the nib. I bought an old saw a some time back and can’t work out what the indent at the end of some older handsaw is for. Later, after 1928, while still carved of beech, the handle was slightly less carved, although still very comfortable. I actually grew up in Daly City. Later D7 models had a completely straight blade, losing the "nib". Carved and Dated 1848 Stair Saw - 85649U $ 225.00. The blade is wider than the D23 which it most closely resembles and has great balance to power through a cut. The best delicate wheat carved apple handle we have ever seen! 4 1/2 point, 26 inch rip. TAE Rare unique Vintage Disston handsaw . Found a problem with the site? th One craftsman, who has been using handsaws for nearly 50 years, says he was taught that the Nib was to clear out accumulated sawdust at intervals during the ripping of planks. No matter what anyone thinks it is for… this book … The Nibs and Timeline of Saw Manufacture. You first drive a nail or screw at the centerpoint of the arc or circle you wish to draw. Hand Saw Buyer's Guide for Traditional Woodworking | Wood and Shop ... Online Reference of Disston Saws -- Disston Advertising. Most #7/D7s came equipped with 4 brass nuts, except during WWII when they were made of steel. It should say "serve COLD". £6.00 postage. May need sharpening. The generally accepted view now – supported by some old Disston documents – is that the nib is there for decoration, and has no intended practical purpose. On this date, the line was completdy revised. They did it on their D8 model. By using the nib, you can estimate the age of your saw. Some shorter panel saws came with only three nuts. stevo_17 (5 of 5 points 316 pos. Now I’ve got nothing against double nibs, but in my opinion they are just too small on this handle. It’s really a historical artifact. I have some early English hand saws with 2-3 decorative nibs, and I have seen early 18th century saws with a decorative hook on the top end. It was disingenuo…, LOL! Details about Disston & Sons D-8 5ppi Thumbhole Rip Saw 26" Long Blade Brass Nuts Nib Pre-1928. Online Reference of Disston Saws -- The Nibs. If you prefer it not as runny, add 1/2 tablespoon of potato starch. The nibs on Disston handsaws changed more over time. Even sadder, on the street I grew up on, there were some empty lots. And yes, the song is accurate. Q. Item #: 95810. I've had been looking for a good rip saw and this one showed up. It was the saw that Disston marketed to trades and craftsmen, but soon it become known as the bedrock of the Disston line. Mark the distance you need from the tape. Nearly perfectly straight. Vintage H DISSTON & SON. A lack of firsthand info has bred many theories. Details of the cookies we use and what you can do to switch them off are are in our Privacy Policy. 1845-1918 much less common saw than the No. Place a pencil into the gullet of one of the teeth of the saw. All saw makers made some saws with nibs and some without. Fantastic FENNER's Patent April 22, 1884 Coping Saw - 46977 $ 259.00. Rare vintage H. Disston & Sons Philada 28" thumbhole saw 5 tpi, 1896 - 1917. 26 inches, 5 1/2 point. Some insists that the Nib had a function. Good etch. Can you help answer this? Blade is faintly etched ‘Henry Disston & Sons Philadelphia USA, 5,’. Although this is a perfectly plausible explanation of the use of the “nib” all the testing I performed has shown that the true purpose of the “nib” is to break up the laminar flow of air as it passes over the blade thus reducing the sonic boom caused by the near Mach 2 speeds of the blade as I cut lumber. The #7 is one of the oldest models that Disston made. 1895 #7, visit the museum. 7. >Found a Disston #9 rip saw w/ nib a week ago. The Disston D8 was made with a skewback blade design. Wondering if you could please give me any information on a saw I found in Auckland New Zealand with Toronto Canada etched on the blade. Disston saws are very recognisable by the maker’s medallion that appears on the handle. The saws in section 1, 2 and 3 are of the same period, the variations between 1 and 2 are due to the section 1 saw being a panel saw and the section 2 saw being a hand saw. One is a H.Disston & Sons rip saw with thumb hole the other is a Richardson Bros. saw. Try it both ways and let me know which works better. Visit our sister site, Common Woodworking, to follow along with Paul's beginner projects and techniques to build your skill. A classic, try a #7 in your shop today. A Collection of 3 Vintage Saws Two Disston USA antique vintage tools diston usa panel saw.
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